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Check out the maths here – they said both 32.5min & 60min are ‘slow rapid’.
- https://chess.stackexchange.com/q/41499
- https://chess.stackexchange.com/q/41478
- https://twitter.com/_/status/1665006937828921344
- https://twitter.com/_/status/1665015848015384576
- https://reddit.com/14dd0ck
- https://reddit.com/14dd0e1
Part0 – The term ‘slow rapid’ is undefined. It’s used for both the 2019 & 2022 WFRCCs.
1 – For 2019
The claim is
Each duel consisted of two “slow rapid” games (45 min for first 40 moves, 15 min for the rest of the game) with victories worth 3 points, two “fast rapid” encounters (15+2 time control) with wins equal to 2 points, and a couple of blitz games (just one point for a victory).
- from here Link 1 Wesley So wins Fischer Random Championship
Link 2 – They also say ‘slow rapid’ like in quotes. LOL.
Link 4 – Regulations for the 2019 FIDE World Fischer Random Chess Championship
2 – For 2022
Link 1 – Battle lines are drawn: Group stage ready to begin October 24, 2022 By Jonathan Tisdall
Quote :
The time control is so-called ‘slow rapid’: Each game is 30 moves in 25 minutes, plus 5 minutes for the rest of the game after move 30, plus 5 seconds increment per move starting from move 31.
Part1 – Short version in case you know Gasai already some stuff about time control conversions
Afaik:
- (0,10) is blitz.
- [10,60) is rapid.
- [60,120) is unrated classical.
- [120,infinity) is rated classical.
So what’s ‘slow rapid’?
I see only 2 possible definitions for slow & fast rapid.
Def 1 – slow rapid means unrated classical [60,120) and fast rapid is rapid [10,60).
- –> this means Wesley So is not classical WFRCC but slow rapid WFRCC while Hikaru is (fast) rapid WFRCC.
Def 2 – slow rapid & fast rapid cut up rapid [10,60) into resp [35,60) and [10,35).
- –> 2 issues here. 60min is not in either of these. Also, 32.5 is in [10,35). So neither 60 nor 32.5 are slow rapid. Lol. Wesley So is again classical WFRCC while Hikaru is fast rapid WFRCC.
Def3 –> Since 15+2=17 is fast rapid, [10,X) is fast rapid & [X,120) is slow rapid for some 17 < X < 32.5. like say X is some arbitrary number like X=20 or X=30. Lol yeah right!!
Part2 – For more explanation
Part I.
- (0,10) is blitz.
- [10,60) is rapid.
- [60,120) is unrated classical. –> apparently if you’re 2200+ or 2400+ or something, and you play a game that’s 60min per player w/o increment or bonus time (or an equivalent of this) then the game is counted as classical but it’s unrated.
- [120,infinity) is rated classical.
Part II.
According to this https://chess.stackexchange.com/q/41479 when it comes to increments and bonus time and stuff you should assume the game is 60 moves. Eg a game of 5min + 6 sec increment per move – Is this rapid? Or blitz? In chessc*m this is considered blitz
- because chessc*m counts the game as 40moves so 5min + ( 6 sec / 1 move ) x 40 moves x ( 1 min / 60 sec ) = 5min + 4min = 9min < 10min
but in FIDE this is considered rapid
- because FIDE counts the game as 60moves so 5min + 6 sec x 60 moves x 1 min / 60 sec = 5min + 6min = 11min > 10min
Part III.
Look at the quarter-finals in the 2019 WFRCC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIDE_World_Fischer_Random_Chess_Championship_2019#Quarterfinals
There is slow rapid, fast rapid & blitz.
Part IV.
When you hear the terms ‘slow rapid’ & ‘fast rapid’ then you might think
Possible Definition 1
- slow rapid = [35,60)
- fast rapid = [10,35)
because 35 is the midpoint of 10 & 60.
Part V.
So why does FIDE consider 32.5min slow rapid?
Part VI.
But as it turns out in 2019 WFRCC
- 3min+2min = 5min is blitz –> No issue
- 15min+2min = 17min is ‘fast rapid’ –> 17 is below 35 so no problem.
- 45min+15min = 60min is ‘slow rapid’ –> How is this slow rapid?
Part VII.
Larry Kaufman ( see user hissha in image above ) told me that 60min might be considered ‘slow rapid’ https://twitter.com/nicbentulan/status/1665006937828921344/photo/1 because [60,120) is not rated. So you’d think
Possible Definition 2 ‘slow rapid’ means [60,120) while ‘fast rapid’ is just the usual rapid [10,60).
Part VIII.
Again
But then why does FIDE consider 32.5min as slow rapid too?
Part IX.
Soooo definitions 1 & 2 don’t work. So
Definition 3 above
slow rapid must be [20,120) ? [30,120)?
I mean how else can both 32.5min & 60min be slow rapid?
It has to be [X,120) that includes 32.5 (and 60) but excludes 17 sooo
17 < X < 32.5
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