Sergey Karjakin told me e doesn’t think Hans Niemann cheated, likes 9LX and says Wesley So is a hero. 2 weeks later, Sergey says Garry Kasparov ‘became a laughingstock’ for the 2022 St Louis Chess9LX performance of 0.5/9. Finally, Sergey won’t play CHESS events unless Russian flag, etc. But 9LX events? ( 2022Sep )

Series : Good guys vs Bad guys – Table of Contents

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Initially posted in r/chess960 : Sergey Karjakin told me e doesn’t think Hans Niemann cheated, likes 9LX and says Wesley So is a hero. 2 weeks later, Sergey says Garry Kasparov ‘became a laughingstock’ for the 2022 St Louis 9LX performance of 0.5/9. Finally, Sergey won’t play CHESS events unless Russian flag, etc. But 9LX events?

post ID : xojwng – Date : 2022Sep26

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Uploaded on 2023Jun05 :

Sergey:
part1. Sergey Karjakin: Magnus Carlsen played bad. Hans Niemann played well. – ajJcubQayCk
part2. Sergey Karjakin likes 9LX. – AC6aPl-a1vQ
part3. Sergey Karjakin: 9LX WC Wesley So is a hero. – W6TokTUwHsg
part4. Sergey Karjakin said no 9LX? – RGsTTnZI-3g
compilation. Sergey Karjakin: Doesn’t think Hans cheated, likes 9LX & says 9LX WC Wesley So is a hero. – bIRay0Y6rVg

Wesley So:
part1. 9LX WC Wesley So on Sergey Karjakin’s ban (2022 Grand Prix) – QdbRX1qZU50
part2. 9LX WC Wesley So doesn’t want Sergey Karjakin to be in the candidates. (2022 Grand Prix) – Plhl5BcQWaQ
compilation. 9LX WC Wesley So on Sergey Karjakin (2022 Grand Prix) – fVZ6CJ_cEhA
part3. 9LX WC Wesley So doesn’t want Sergey in candidates. Karjakin response: Wesley So is a hero. – fTWDDLWvexA

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Part1 – SERGEY KARJAKIN, PRO-PUTIN UKRAINIAN-BORN RUSSIAN, SIDES W/ 3 AMERICANS OVER FELLOW NON-UKRAINIAN EUROPEAN MAGNUS CARLSEN:

A – HANS NIEMANN
B – BOBBY FISCHER
C – WESLEY SO

WHY?

Note : Russia changed from European chess federation to Asian chess federation in 2023Feb, several months after Sergey told me this. ( I didn’t even think countries has continent chess federations the way players had country chess federations. Lol. )

Russian chess federation is officially Asian now!

— Mohamed Al-Mudahka (@almodiahki) February 28, 2023

(Previously said here, but official post now.)

I asked Sergey on 2022Sep07 :

• 1 – Sergey did Hans cheat?

• 2 – Sergey what do you think of the upcoming 9LX tournament in Iceland 2022Oct?

• 3 – Please it’s killing me!!!! Do you support Wesley?

and then for the 1st time ever Sergey replied to me – it was only a few minutes later (to this particular message; though I’ve been bugging Sergey about the other things for months) :

• 1 – I have no ideas:). Magnus played bad and Hans played well.

• 2 – I like Fischer chess and it is pity that we don’t have many tournaments on it.

• 3 – Wesley is a hero:).

Like nothing bad at all. I mean, Sergey could’ve answered instead like…

• 1 – Hans does have a history of online cheating, but this doesn’t mean Hans cheated in person. I have no ideas:). Magnus played bad and Hans played well.

• 2 – I don’t like Bobby Fischer, but I like Fischer chess and it is pity that we don’t have many tournaments on it.

• 3 – I don’t like that Wesley didn’t want me in the candidates, but I support Wesley over Magnus:).

Why would Sergey call an American Wesley So a hero given how much pro-Putin Russians hate the US and given Wesley So said ‘I don’t want Sergey to be in the candidates’ in 2022Apr?

Part1.1 – Recall 2021 WCC

And you can’t say nationality/ethnicity matters to Sergey who accused Daniil Dubov of treason re the 2021 WCC where Daniil BETRAYED fellow Russians ( 2022Dec Update : fellow Jewish Russians ) Nepo & Sergey for overlord Magnus. See ‘[Chess] Et Tu, Dubov? Petty nationalism mars the 2021 World Chess Championship‘ by tandemtactics on 2022Jan12 post ID s1uk8c which btw includes a conversation between spartaman64 & myself :

spartaman64
Karjakin was born in Ukraine and was formerly a Ukrainian grandmaster. So if he wants to talk about betrayal.

nicbentulan
not necessarily. what about “w”esley “s”o ? 1 way to understand this chess joke is to check out r/pampers i’ll also post in comments more – wordpress edit Wesley So vs Tigran L Petrosian copypasta

spartaman64
well afaik america isnt on the verge of invading the Philippines to annex it

nicbentulan
Lol haha thanks for the info

nicbentulan
1month later hmmmmm yeah I get it now. Hehehehe

From Sergey’s Wikipedia :

Karjakin criticised Daniil Dubov for serving as a second for Magnus Carlsen in the World Chess Championship 2021 against Ian Nepomniachtchi.[43] This was also criticised by Sergei Shipov, who along with Karjakin said that Dubov should not have helped a non-Russian in a match against a fellow Russian. Dubov responded that he considered it to be a match between two individuals and counter-argued that working with Carlsen would improve his chess and hence help the Russian team.[44]

From Daniil’s Wikipdia page :

He again served as a second for Magnus Carlsen in the World Chess Championship 2021 against Ian Nepomniachtchi.[23] This was criticized by Sergey Karjakin and Sergei Shipov, saying that he should not have helped a non-Russian in a match against a fellow Russian, with Shipov saying Dubov should not play for Russia in the future. Dubov responded that he considered it to be a match between two individuals, and counter-argued that working with Carlsen would improve his chess and hence help the Russian team.[24]

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Part1.2 – Source is Sergey’s telegram :

1. My message : here
2. Sergey reply : here

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Part2 – Notes :

Note 1 : I wasn’t sure it was Sergey, but based on the ff I believe it really is:

• Link 1
• Link 2
• Link 3
• Link 4

Note 2 : I was asking Sergey about 9LX partly because I had been told by romanovchess: ‘Karjakin in one of the Russian-language streams said that he would not want 960 to be played at tournaments. Then his chances of success would decrease …’ (Original: ‘Карякин в одном из руссоязычных стримов сказал, что он не хотел бы, чтобы на турнирах стали играть в 960. Тогда его шансы на успех уменьшились бы…‘) despite that Sergey DID say e likes 9LX back in 2019.

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romanovchess tweet on 2022Apr18 :

Карякин в одном из руссоязычных стримов сказал, что он не хотел бы, чтобы на турнирах стали играть в 960. Тогда его шансы на успех уменьшились бы…

— Шахматы Романова (@romanovchess) April 18, 2022

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Note 3 : Anatoly said Magnus played badly too: See ‘Karpov: “Carlsen played extremely badly”‘ by wwqt. – from tass (‘Карпов оценил предположение о нечестной победе Ниманна над Карлсеном’ translated as ‘Karpov appreciated the assumption of Niemann’s dishonest victory over Carlsen’)

• Note 3.1 – Anatoly had recently played pair chess with Sergey and politicians Alexander Zhukov and Ivan Melnikov. (See Link 1, Link 2 and Link 3.)
• Note 3.2 – Also in 2019: Sergey thinks Anatoly would be good at 9LX but Hikaru Nakamura thinks otherwise – which links to this 2019 Champions Showdown | Chess 9LX: 960 & Masters from the Past.

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Note 4 : Misspelling: Fischer not Fisher. However, Sergey does spell ‘Fischer’ correctly in Russian in a later telegram post where e says Garry Kasparov ‘became a laughingstock’ on 2022Sep19 [Image].

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Quote translation:

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The once great Champion once again became a laughingstock in the prestigious Fischer Chess Tournament in St. Louis, USA, finishing in last place with a score of 0.5 points out of 9 possible.

Such a depressing result could not remain painless, and here is the comment Kasparov* gave at the end of the tournament (translated from English – Chess-News):

“It’s a defining moment for our civilization. Even though I’m upset about my performance in the tournament, I’m very happy that Ukraine is winning. That’s what matters to humanity, not how many points Kasparov scored.”

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

The Russians Ian Nepomniachtchi and Peter Svidler also took part in the tournament, taking 3rd and 7th places respectively.

Small note:

a necessary condition for the participation of Russians in this tournament and in the entire Grand Chess Tour series was the signing of a letter condemning the CBO.

Photos by Lennart Ootes.

* Recognized as a foreign agent in Russia.

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Original:

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Когда-то великий Чемпион в очередной раз стал посмешищем в престижном турнире по шахматам Фишера в американском Сент-Луисе, заняв последнее место с результатом 0,5 очков из 9 возможных.

Столь удручающий результат не мог остаться безболезненным и вот какой комментарий Каспаров* дал по окончании турнира (перевод с английского – Chess-News):

“Настал решающий момент для нашей цивилизации. Пусть я расстроен своим выступлением в турнире, я очень рад тому, что Украина побеждает. Для человечества имеет значение именно это, а не то, сколько очков набрал Каспаров”.

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

В турнире так же принимали участие россияне Ян Непомнящий и Петр Свидлер, занявшие 3 и 7-ое место соответственно.

Маленькая ремарка:

необходимым условием для участия россиян в этом турнире и во всей серии «Grand Chess Tour” было подписание письма с осуждением СВО.

Фотографии Lennart Ootes.

*Признан в России иноагентом.

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Note 4.1 : Sergey also attached this image of Garry, this image of Garry, Nepo and Peter Svidler and this image of the final standings. Of course, I agree w/ Sergey’s actions but not necessarily Sergey’s reasons : I’m glad that Sergey was kicking an old person while the old person is down because the old person Garry is a cheater & Jewish traitor in chess re cheating fellow Jew Judit Polgar, but of course Sergey considers Garry more of a Russian traitor re political reasons and not chess reasons. Probably, Garry is a good guy in politics but a bad guy in chess.

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Note 5: On 2022Sep23, Sergey, after expiry of ban said here [Image] ‘My participation is possible only if the FIDE tournaments are held in friendly countries and if I can play under the Russian flag and not change the flag to FIDE or FSR.’ (Original: Мое участие возможно только если турниры ФИДЕ будут проводиться в дружественных странах и если я смогу играть под флагом России, а не менять флаг на ФИДЕ или ФШР.)

• Note 5.1 – I had this strange feeling Sergey would be wild card for FIDE 9LX 2022 as part of some settlement agreement (last I checked Sergey was still going to sue FIDE for h ban). But based on aforementioned, maybe not since Sergey won’t play unless Russian flag, etc. Then again that’s for CHESS events. What about for the 9LX events?!

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Note 6 : I was asking what Sergey thinks of Wesley So like if e supports Wesley So over Magnus in the upcoming 2022 WFRCC given Wesley So said

1. Sergey went crazy on Twitter (‘He’s lost his mind the last couple of months.’) in 2022Mar and then
2. ‘I don’t want Sergey to be in the candidates’ in 2022Apr, both times during the 2022 Grand Prix, which btw Sergey rightfully criticised.

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Part3 – Possibilities as to why Sergey sides w/ 3 Americans over a fellow non-Ukrainian European :

Possibility 1 – Genuine / fan service

Genuine answer w/o regard for ethnicity / nationality. Maybe it’s just fanservice or whatever to h few Philippine / American fans (At the time, I was the only person who didn’t know Russian [I finished Russian on Duolingo in 2018 though!] in Sergey’s telegram. Lol). And I guess also like why crush 1 of your fan’s hopes?

Possibility 2 – Magnus is just that evil. Lol.

Magnus is so evil that a pro-Putin Ukrainian-born Russian would side w/ 3 Americans over a fellow non-Ukrainian European.

Not surprising that Magnus is evil given chess960 players are generally more honest & more mentally healthy (also wordpress) than chess players eg Magnus cheated and thus is a hypocrite and possibly an anti-American racist in baselessly accusing Hans and then playing 3 non-American cheaters Parham, Pranav & Sébastien Feller but not American cheater Hans.

• Possibility 2.1 – 2022Dec Update – Magnus is possibly an anti-Semitic racist – 2023Mar Update – in baselessly accusing Hans and then playing 3 gentile non-American cheaters Parham, Pranav & Sébastien Feller but not Jewish American cheater Hans.

Possibility 3 – Jews & Americans stick together. ( 2022Dec Update )

Jews & Americans are the 2 nationalities/ethnicities that rules chess since like ever and then Jews & Americans stick together vs gentile non-American Magnus. – But they stick together in a good way like defending from racism not conspiring to cheat.

See this post originally in 2022Dec Bobby Fischer if alive today would support Hans Niemann over Magnus Carlsen … Apparently not?! | Quote: ‘top brass in chess world is team Jew. … Niemann did cheat … Jewish conspiracy to bring down the gentile who dominated them’ | ‘None of the Indians are Jews but almost all the Russians are.’ (zs4zpf) – like indeed 90% of top chess players are Jewish, American or (countries of former) Soviet (Union) and if top Soviet are mostly Jewish, then it could be a thing like Jewish or American players stick together, especially now that they are possibly being discriminated against by Magnus.

• Possibility 3.1 – Maybe Sergey is happy that Wesley So ‘avenged’ Sergey & Fabi in the resp 2016 & 2018 WCCs in that Wesley ‘completely obliterated‘ Magnus in classical 9LX by beating Magnus in 3x classical games in a row in the 2019 inaugural and so far only classical WFRCC. But then again it begs the question as to why Wesley So, Sergey & Fabi are on the same ‘team’.

Possibility 4 – NATO ( 2023Jun11 Update )

I found out the secgen of NATO is A NORWEGIAN named Jens Stoltenberg. LOL. But I also found out…

• Wikipedia (emphasis added) : ‘The officeholder is an international diplomat responsible for coordinating the workings of the alliance, leading NATO’s international staff, chairing the meetings of the North Atlantic Council and most major committees of the alliance, with the notable exception of the NATO Military Committee, as well as acting as NATO’s spokesperson.^[1] The secretary general does not have a military command role; political, military and strategic decisions ultimately rest with the member states.‘
• Right ok. So I thought the US was like the ‘leader’ of NATO but then ‘oh wow it’s actually Norway’ BUT THEN oh ok NATO doesn’t exactly have a ‘leader’. Yeah like European Union… I guess while EU’s ‘leader’ is former Belgian prime minister Charles Michel, EU isn’t led by Belgium…but idk it says on Wikipedia that the de facto capital of the EU is Brussels. But still I figure the US is like the ‘de facto’ leader or at least has the most de facto influence / power in NATO.
• But IDK there are some cases where NATO seemed synonymous with the US or as if the US was like was like the leader. See : In chess, NATO is synonymous w/ the US? (Bobby Fischer, Sergey Karjakin)

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Part4 – Miscellaneous

Part4.1 – In 2023Jun / 2023Jul Michael Carroll aka michaelcarroll5801, the Australian from the 9LX creator Bobby Fischer talks about ‘axis of evil’ vs ‘allies of evil’…including Australia? video here says :

Everybody mad Karjakin wants to support Russia but no one cares why. Ukrainian forces shelled thousands of Russian speaking Ukrainians in the Donbas and NATO along with the US/Ukraine went too far and poked the Russian bear. Or is that KGB propaganda? I dunno.

me (added numbers to remove link preview)

Relevant?

1 – https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/74135/what-does-donbass-whom-the-ukrainian-army-has-been-bombing-for-the-last-8-year

2 – https://twitter.com/sergeykaryakin/status/1498398663252525068

3 – https://twitter.com/sergeykaryakin/status/1498398853984305160

4 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqtEnB1I1Ek – wordpress edit see Does Magnus Carlsen have something against Americans? Hans Niemann is American, like Wesley So and Bobby Fischer.

And here are previews of the 4 links where Sergey Karjakin ( SergeyKaryakin ) talks with Kostya Kavutskiy ( hellokostya )

For 1 :

What does ‘Donbass, whom the Ukrainian army has been bombing for the last 8 years’ refer to?

https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/74135/what-does-donbass-whom-the-ukrainian-army-has-been-bombing-for-the-last-8-year

For 2 :

Have you also collected money for the residents of Donbass, whom the Ukrainian army has been bombing for the last 8 years? You can come there and go, for example, to the Alley of Angels, which was built in honor of the children of Donbass who died from the shelling of Ukrainian… https://t.co/B98NMiVXUP

— Sergey Karjakin 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺 (@SergeyKaryakin) February 28, 2022

For 3 :

…Ukrainian criminals. Still funny?
After everything is over, I will donate at least the equivalent of $10,000 of my money to the residents of Donbass affected by the war…

— Sergey Karjakin 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺 (@SergeyKaryakin) February 28, 2022

For 4 :

Part4.2 – ‘Fellow European’ ? ( 2023Sep13 … wow a year later lol )

Someone on twitter named NeokoAKtion told me :

I mean, I’m not sure but calling Russia “fellow Europeans” is a bit odd because Russians don’t consider themselves to be “European” but rather “Eurasian” and “multinational”. Politicaly, are at odd with Europe.

Tweet :

I mean, I'm not sure but calling Russia "fellow Europeans" is a bit odd because Russians don't consider themselves to be "European" but rather "Eurasian" and "multinational". Politicaly, are at odd with Europe.

— ℕ𝕖𝕠𝕜𝕠🇺🇸 (@NeokoAKtion) September 13, 2023

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